Trump at it Again

[Carlos]

I found that the female appointee did not directly groom, but her and her husband are accused of knowingly allowing one of their employees to do so.

So see @Carlos, I'm even willing to correct myself when facts show that I made a mistaken in what I have said.

Anyone who bought into that story is a dumbass. So, go over there to the left, and believe everything the media tells you.

<pats back> Okay? You want to defend the left? Go for it. I won't be here to listen to your leftist drivel. So, go over there and grovel to the left. That's what you get for believing that shit.

Anyone knows that, salacious stories like that IS CANCEL CULTURE.

 

[Jason]

Both sides seem creepy to me, morally. I couldn't vote for either side.

 

[Carlos]

Both sides seem creepy to me, morally. I couldn't vote for either side.

Yet you fucking made this thread! This moral grand stand is just as hypocritical as that post.

 

[Jason]

Yet you fucking made this thread! This moral grand stand is just as hypocritical as that post.

I like stirring stuff up.

 

[Carlos]

I like stirring stuff up.

So you think this is funny.

 

[Jason]

Just never mind. Didn't it spark a lot of good discussion?

 

[Carlos]

Just never mind. Didn't it spark a lot of good discussion?

Threads like this divides people. Surely you fucking know that shit. This is politics. You stand there and laugh like its fun to make people pissed off.

I swear, if I ever saw you in person and you said this, you'd have a broken nose by now, because you're trying to piss people off for your own gain.

 

[Tracy]

Anyone who bought into that story is a dumbass. So, go over there to the left, and believe everything the media tells you.

Yeah, like anyone that bought into the Trump paying to hide his affair. Let's see, what was that... 34 guilty verdicts as determined by a JURY of people and not a judge?
It's pretty hard to get 12 people to agree on anything, especially something like that case. But of course, the normal cry is "they were liberal New Yorkers". Well, Trump had attorneys and hired folks helping pick out a friendly jury pool. Seems that they all agreed he was guilty. So either Trump hires incompetents (entirely believable when you look at his proposed appointments) or there was a giant hidden group that conspired to secretly coerce by any means necessary a jury of 12 to agree that he was guilty.

And that is why I said it remains to be seen how that turns out. There are 5 folks making the accusation. Little bit stronger case than if one or two claim it happened.
You see, it's not the "media telling us that". It is actual court filings in a court of law that requires the following of certain guidelines. But I realize you don't know the difference.
And it will be for that judicial process to determine if there is fire where the smoke is rising from.

Anyone knows that, salacious stories like that IS CANCEL CULTURE.

Do you deny Trumps very own voice about "grabbing them by the pussy"? You apparently really do live in a land of fantasy. That is what the courts are for. Of course, the common cry is "it's lawfare"... and then "everyone is out to get them". That attitude walks hand in hand with paranoia.
Back to the MAGA mansplaining we go, using all the most popular MAGA catch words of the day.

 

[Jason]

People have a right to be angry on whatever side they choose. We shouldn't make fun of them like on some South Park episode.

 

[Tracy]

So you think this is funny.

I personally think the way the MAGA sycophants try to explain away all the issues with Trump hilarious.
And over the next two years we shall see that process climb to even higher heights of hilariousness to the point the people finally get fed up with the GOP like they did in 2020.

The last good actor that held office (and knew what he was doing) was Reagan.

 

[Jason]

I have a heart for the way people feel on both sides. I see where they're coming from, but it can be tempting to look at them in a mocking way.

 

[Tracy]

I have a heart for the way people feel on both sides. I see where they're coming from, but it can be tempting to look at them in a mocking way.

I try not to "mock" them... it's hard to make comments to correct certain segments as it quickly appears to "mock" stupidity.
What I find so amusing is that the folks that elect folks into office that are not qualified but based upon feelings then act so shocked when they prove their lack of qualifications by their actions and those that voted them in are apparently surprised by it?
As I've commented, the proof will be in the pudding over the next two years. If the MAGA sycophants can reign in their radical right party, they may be able to do something, but if they can't we will have a repeat of what the last House gave us.

The very conversation about tariffs and the assumptions that some made are a classic case of what I speak of.
First it's denial.
Then it's trying to explain it away.
Then it's name calling and running off to hide in the cellar with the other mushrooms while the BS continues to be shoveled to them for nutrients.

 

[Jason]

I try not to "mock" them... it's hard to make comments to correct certain segments as it quickly appears to "mock" stupidity.
What I find so amusing is that the folks that elect folks into office that are not qualified but based upon feelings then act so shocked when they prove their lack of qualifications by their actions and those that voted them in are apparently surprised by it?
As I've commented, the proof will be in the pudding over the next two years. If the MAGA sycophants can reign in their radical right party, they may be able to do something, but if they can't we will have a repeat of what the last House gave us.

The very conversation about tariffs and the assumptions that some made are a classic case of what I speak of.
First it's denial.
Then it's trying to explain it away.
Then it's name calling and running off to hid in the cellar with the other mushrooms.

Well, possibly people can't stomach the other possibility, and its true democrats are launching a cultural war onto the society.

 

[Tracy]

Well, possibly people can't stomach the other possibility, and its true democrats are launching a cultural war onto the society.

It's true that both sides are actually launching cultural wars. Seems like many think that's a position limited to the left.
The actions of the GOP right against LGBTQ+ rights are as much of a culture war as those of the Democratic left for them.
That's the thing about culture wars.. it depends on which side you are on if you classify it as a war.
Meanwhile, we in the middle continue to say "leave peoples choices the f*ck alone and don't try to impose your beliefs on us".
Beliefs are opinions... and opinions are like assholes. We all have them, and the majority of them stink.
What is the major issue with letting people decide how they want to live their lives as long as it does not directly impact you? And sorry, offended feelings because you don't agree with them are not a direct impact.
Politics has sadly become a desire of people to force their beliefs upon others. The Oklahoma school head is a classic case... he is ALL IN on teaching Christianity in school because "it's a god given right"... but when confronted about other religions he gets a deer in the headlights look on his face. It's like he believes that Christianity was the ONLY religion (probably Southern Baptist to be exact) involved in the US history. And that was shown by his wanting to push a certain requirements for a bible to be required in the schools... the only one being that which was endorsed by Trump.

The days of both sides being able to work together for the betterment of our society are long dead. And Democracy is following quickly behind that loss.

 

[Jason]

It's true that both sides are actually launching cultural wars. Seems like many think that's a position limited to the left.
The actions of the GOP right against LGBTQ+ rights are as much of a culture war as those of the Democratic left for them.
That's the thing about culture wars.. it depends on which side you are on if you classify it as a war.
Meanwhile, we in the middle continue to say "leave peoples choices the f*ck alone and don't try to impose your beliefs on us".
Beliefs are opinions... and opinions are like assholes. We all have them, and the majority of them stink.
What is the major issue with letting people decide how they want to live their lives as long as it does not directly impact you? And sorry, offended feelings because you don't agree with them are not a direct impact.
Politics has sadly become a desire of people to force their beliefs upon others. The Oklahoma School head is a classic case... he is ALL IN on teaching Christianity in school because "it's a god given right"... but when confronted about other religions he gets a deer in the headlights look on his face. It's like he believes that Christianity was the ONLY religion (probably Southern Baptist to be exact) involved in the US history.

Yeah, but WOKE is imposing it's philosophy on public schools.

It would be nice to live and let live and at one time, that was the case. School was just about learning academic subjects, watching basketball or football, prep rallies, but now everything is so politically charged, but I think the cultural left launched the first strike.

 

[Tracy]

Yeah, but WOKE is imposing it's philosophy on public schools

Really? Define woke for me?
Is it teaching that some people live alternative life styles? Well, that is a reality. And it is a reality that our kids need to know about instead of being told that anyone that doesn't meet certain requirements are "dangerous". So explain exactly what is wrong with teaching kids that people like alternate sexes, people like the same sex, people like both and some can't decide which they like. Or which they are? That is an issue that I have with this "WOKE" hue & cry that is easily shown in most cases to be based upon religion.
There are certain classes that is valid to be taught in, healthy and humanity being the prime one.
The problem is much of society has decided to neglect teaching their kids this, so it ultimate devolves to the government (schools) to have to teach them how to deal with society (those that are different than them) in a polite manner.
I won't go into bathroom issues.. but it's honestly not THAT frigging hard for a school to plumb a gender neutral bathroom into their buildings. My brother (who does school constructions) said in an existing building it is pocket change compared to what most schools spend on athletic programs.

 

[joelr]

Locking this thread to give everyone a chance to cool down.

As a gentle reminder, let's debate ideas and facts, not each other.