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Why Has vBulletin Fallen Out of Favour with Forum Owners?

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vBulletin’s reputation has taken a beating over the years, and for those who remember its dominance in the early 2000s, the fall from grace is a stark one. Much of the negativity traces back to the release of vBulletin 5 (vB5), which landed with more of a thud than a bang. The release felt rushed, with bugs and broken features that left users wondering if they were using a beta rather than a finished product. Since then, patches have attempted to address issues, but the damage to its image was already done.

Beyond that rocky start, performance issues have plagued vB5, with users reporting painfully slow page load times, especially on high-traffic forums. This resource-hungry software requires a robust server to keep things running smoothly, which only added to users’ frustrations. Then there’s the elephant in the room: security. Over the years, vBulletin has had its share of security vulnerabilities, some of them severe. No forum software is invulnerable, but users were irked by what they saw as vBulletin's slow response to addressing these issues.

On top of all this, vBulletin’s pricing doesn’t help its case. The licensing fees are steeper than many competitors, but the features and reliability simply don’t justify the cost for most. When you compare it to alternatives like XenForo, MyBB, or Discourse, vBulletin starts to feel overpriced and underwhelming. Even the user interface has struggled to keep up with the times. While some improvements have been made, it still comes across as clunky compared to the sleek, user-friendly designs seen in newer platforms. Modern forum software has embraced minimalism, better UX, and mobile responsiveness—areas where vBulletin continues to lag.

The community itself has drifted away over the years, with many long-time users migrating to other platforms. With fewer developers, mods, and support available from the community, the ecosystem around vBulletin is shrinking. This dwindling user base leaves the software feeling even more stagnant. For many forum owners, vBulletin’s combination of high costs, bugginess, and an outdated approach is enough to push them toward more dynamic and affordable options.

With all this considered, can vBulletin 6 reverse fortunes?
 
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Well, @Shawn Gossman has a good VB site and so I just can't see anything wrong with the newest software.
When you compare it to alternatives like XenForo, MyBB, or Discourse, vBulletin starts to feel overpriced and underwhelming.
MyBB has started to have some major problems. I say this even though I had just made a forum with it.
 
vBulletin is better than MyBB and Discourse IMO. I'm not a fan of modern forum software, it's not as organized as traditional forum software. MyBB hasn't really done much to make it stand on it's own in a very long time. It was once the most popular free forum software, but has fallen from grace.
Well, the first problem (with MyBB) is MyAlerts and what software is worth anything without an alerts system? Do some people get it working?
 
Well, @Shawn Gossman has a good VB site and so I just can't see anything wrong with the newest software.

MyBB has started to have some major problems. I say this even though I had just made a forum with it.

You're right about that. I've been on the forum for a while now and it looks so good. It brought back so much vibe of what VB site used to bring into the fold.

It's very unfortunate that the dominance of XenForo, WordPress and other powerful forum softwares have overshadowed VB.
 
I have enjoyed using vBulletin again after many years of not using it.

I still think version 3 was the better series but version 6 is pretty promising. They just need to continue to update it and make it better.

Personally, I think they can shift competition away from XenForo and focus on Invision.

VB6 isn't just a forum like XenForo is, it's a suite like Invision is. VB6 includes the core forum, user blogs, user articles, and social groups. You have to buy those addons for XenForo and some of them almost cost as much as a XF license.

I still prefer XF over all of them but that's mainly because I want the forum feature more than anything else.

If I wanted to create a lot of suite-type communities, I'd probably be using VB or Invision exclusively.
 
I have enjoyed using vBulletin again after many years of not using it.

I still think version 3 was the better series but version 6 is pretty promising. They just need to continue to update it and make it better.

Personally, I think they can shift competition away from XenForo and focus on Invision.

VB6 isn't just a forum like XenForo is, it's a suite like Invision is. VB6 includes the core forum, user blogs, user articles, and social groups. You have to buy those addons for XenForo and some of them almost cost as much as a XF license.

I still prefer XF over all of them but that's mainly because I want the forum feature more than anything else.

If I wanted to create a lot of suite-type communities, I'd probably be using VB or Invision exclusively.
Yeah, that gives VB an edge.
 
Personally, I think they can shift competition away from XenForo and focus on Invision.

VB6 isn't just a forum like XenForo is, it's a suite like Invision is. VB6 includes the core forum, user blogs, user articles, and social groups. You have to buy those addons for XenForo and some of them almost cost as much as a XF license.

They seriously need to mount a strong competition for XenForo but I know it's going to be very difficult because most webmasters have gotten so used to XenForo that it's going to be almost impossible for them to switch over completely.
 
I'm liking VB so much that I bought a second license.

Right now, they're offering $25 off for the holidays. They have the couple code on their support forum.

Crazy, A few months ago, I wouldn't even had thought about vBulletin. @AWS has mentioned something to me about it and now I'm a VB user again after all these years haha
 
The real reason they fell out of favor is because Kier was in charge. Dev was slow to non-existent. Took 4 years for vbulletin 3 to get released. vbulletin 4 was on the same track. IB wanted action. Kier wanted to keep the same pace. He departed.

Once he did that there was an uproar in the community. No matter what vbulletin was to be would never be good enough for the vocal fanboys. To most of the fanbase Kier was some sort of demigod. Nothing would ever be as good if he didn't code it. In reality he is not a very good coder. Mike was always the code guy. At vbulletin as well as xenforo.

vbulletin 4 wasn't bad. vbulletin 5 was bad in the beginning. It did get better. I like what I see with vbulletin 6.

Can't be bad to have another solid competitor.
 
To most of the fanbase Kier was some sort of demigod. Nothing would ever be as good if he didn't code it. In reality he is not a very good coder. Mike was always the code guy. At vbulletin as well as xenforo.
That still is the effect. The Cult of Kier (actually XenForo) is strong over on their support site. It is also what helped kill TAZ IMHO.
Lord help you if you ever say anything negative about XF or the developers. We all know they puke, piss and poop solid streams of ambrosia. ;)
I used to be a strong proponent of XF. I finally woke up and realized they are simply coders doing what they want and not really that concerned with the desires of their license holders needs.
It is a good script, if all you need is a basic forum and simple media gallery and resource manager. If you want a more fully featured website you need to look elsewhere or be prepared to invest a LOT in 3rd party add-ons.
An associate has recently been talking about vB and using it on an alternative XF support site, as much as a poke in they eye to some of those as the fact the newer version looks decent.
 
Xenforo has become too much better, and is constantly improving. VB needs to step their game up.
if you only want a basic forum with a somewhat acceptable resource manager and gallery.. yep, Bob's your uncle.
But if you want a much more detailed and well rounded website offering for your users, it's your bane.
That is unless you have extra money and don't mind depending on 3rd party providers.
I haven't played first hand with vB... yet... but for only $179 that may change.
 
Xenforo has become too much better, and is constantly improving. VB needs to step their game up.
It's nowhere near where it should be. Stuck in 2000 I'm afraid. It does what it was built to do. Software to build a forum. Nothing more. So if you only want a forum it's great. If you want more look elsewhere.
 
Software to build a forum. Nothing more. So if you only want a forum it's great. If you want more look elsewhere.
This is my biggest issue with it. And my big issue with the XF cult members. They are still stuck in the belief that a forum only can do everything, meanwhile reality strikes and then people comment on the death of forums. Yes, if that is all your site is based upon in todays era it will struggle and likely die.
Meanwhile the XF apologist continue to mansplain.
As long as they don’t demand more, it will be business as usual.
 
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Xenforo has become too much better, and is constantly improving. VB needs to step their game up.
Have you actually looked at the newer version? What I saw from a user perspective was intriguing.
 
I'm liking VB so much that I bought a second license.

Right now, they're offering $25 off for the holidays. They have the couple code on their support forum.

Crazy, A few months ago, I wouldn't even had thought about vBulletin. @AWS has mentioned something to me about it and now I'm a VB user again after all these years haha
Having the whole package for one price, unlike XenForo, is a big advantage. Is Invision similar?
 

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